Noah’s ark located?? Prometheus Lens Podcast Interview

Noah’s ark located?? Prometheus Lens Podcast Interview

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Check out their stuff, and see what blend you like you’ve got to say what to choose from. Back to another episode, guys. We were back with Andrew Jones. He’s agreed to show us some of the Arc scans from Ron Wyatt’s expeditions and break these down. I’ve been really excited about this.

I’ve seen these scans, but of course I’m a layman and just looking at them and seeing what I see. So it’s really nice to have somebody with us today that can actually break these down and explain everything to us. So thanks again for coming on with us, Andrew.

– No problem, glad to be here and share what I know. – All right, well, let her rip tater chip, what you got? – Okay, well, we’re again looking at the Derupnar boat formation, or the Derupnar-Nozark site, which is about 30 minutes where I live here in Eastern Turkey.

And this is the site that Ron Wyatt made popular as being the very remains of Nozark. And we believe that is the case. Of course, we’re looking forward to excavations being done by the Turkish authorities, but we want to look at some of the scans today that have been done in the past.

Again, when I talk about scan, but I talk about this geophysical surveys that are non-destructive, ‘cause no one has been allowed to excavate. And excavation is kind of a destructive science. You’re obviously pulling out material that you can’t put back. So people have used in different archaeological sites

And in the oil exploration and others, for construction geophysical surveys to see what’s below the ground. And so we’re gonna kind of do an overview today from the 1980s onward until this most recently when the Turkish government did some scans, we’re going to talk about them

And hopefully this will help show why we believe that there’s something there that’s manmade in the shape of a boat. In the 1980s, so we’re gonna just kind of go in chronological order. And so in the 1980s, Ron Wyatt started his main work on the site.

His first visit was in the late ’70s, but he didn’t do really any geophysical surveys until the mid 1980s when they were doing metal detector scans. And so with the metal detector scans, they were able to see a pattern of metal just within the boat formation. A lot of people who are critics,

They basically ignored this. And only one person that I’ve seen wrote an article that tried to explain why you were finding this pattern inside the boat. I think that was Professor Collins. He co-wrote an article with David Fasold who at the time had changed his mind.

Though some have said that before he died, Fasold went back to believe that it was Belzark. But at any rate, they both wrote this paper kind of trying to show that this was a natural formation. And in Fasold’s view, it could have been maybe what the ancient people thought was Belzark.

You know, they see this boat shaped rock, he said, and so maybe it was what they claimed was Belzark and they were visiting it. You know, he was speculating there. But at any rate in the 1980s, the mid 1980s, Ron Wyatt and then later with Fasold and others did do metal detector scans.

And these scans were showing that there’s a pattern in some places every nine feet. That’s only within the boat formation. So when you go out into the surrounding fields and mud flow, then that earth flow that’s around it, that jumble of rocks and dirt, you don’t find any pattern.

And so that got more people interested in the site when they saw this and realized that, hey, maybe there’s something here below the ground. And then Ron did extensive GPR work. You know, back then it was analog. So he had a little printout, this paper, thermal paper

That would print out the scans on as they’re scanning the object. And we use multiple antennas. So GPR stands for ground penetrating radar. I’m not an expert, but basically it’s recording the response of these frequencies that’s being sent to the ground, kind of like sonar on a submarine.

And it’s able then to produce on paper and now digital, what is below the ground, sometimes showing really fine shapes. And other times you have to excavate obviously to figure out what it is. But like archaeologists use this, especially if you can get, you’re in an area where you can’t excavate yet,

They would usually use this to try to find the best spot to excavate or just to see what’s below the ground without removing the top soil. And so again, this is peering below the soil. Now Ron believed that it was showing this, basically the remains of a boat with all the bulkheads

And other structure you would find on a wooden ship. And so this was his diagram that he created after his mini scans of the mid to late eighties. Then later, actually about the same time, some Turkish scientists came in because this was hitting the news a lot and Turkey and the West,

Ron Wyatt and David Fasold, they were making the news. And so they brought in their own scientists. And most people don’t know this about, there are two papers that they did publish in which it’s all in Turkish, but you can translate it. And they were trying to basically say that

They believed it was a natural object. This was written in 1985. Now we have links to these papers and we finally were able to find them on the Turkish government science websites. We found, we ordered them, we bought copies of these PDF files, but these 1985 reports, they had different diagrams.

And here they’re saying like this was, I believe it’s in decline. They’re basically saying that based on the geology, the area of this boat fits where it’s at, being part of the surrounding hills. And it’s not like a unique object there. So that was their reports.

But by the way, you can download these off our website, Noah’s Ark scans.com. We have a section there under research, I believe. We have all the different reports. So we’re open to everything. We’re not just trying to say, hey, it’s Noah’s Ark. We’re also letting people who say it’s not Noah’s Ark,

If they’ve done something off of a scientific report, we put it up there. And so you can make your own mind up. So these reports are there, along with everyone else’s that we’ve found so far, plus our own. So anyways, this is from the 1985 report. Here’s another image from these extensive reports

Done in 1985. I believe they were published in ’86. And then this is about the same time that Dr. Salih Bayraktutan got involved and he’s a retired professor of geology from a nearby university. And he’s still around, an older guy, but he has done the most work on this site versus anyone else.

In fact, we met with him a couple of times last year and we’re hoping that he can do more work on this site because he has all this knowledge and we would like to record everything he has on it on video, do a series where he explains

About the region and the history of the site, what he’s done and why he believes it is a man-made structure. He believes this is a boat. So he’s a very important figure in the history of the research of the site. And he was involved with some of the early scans

With some Americans like Dr. John Baumgardner, who at the time believed it was Noah’s ark. And so in 1987, they also did GPR, ground penetrating radar. You can see the grid system they use. I believe it was every two meters or so, they did these grids across the boat

In both directions, I think. Definitely this way, going in horizontal on the screen there. And then they also were able to get some really interesting results from that that they published in 19, I think the same year they published it, 1987. And they’re showing, here’s some screenshots.

And now, again, this is images done, taken of this thermal paper. So this is not digital, so it’s a scan of a scan. And this is the best quality that John Baumgardner could give us. And they saw something interesting that had this V shape. Now this is not corrected for the terrain

‘cause the boat itself is, if you’re walking on it, the top of the ground is uneven, it’s not as flat. And so, but with the radar, they were showing that there was something there a couple meters below the surface. I wanna say two to three meters, so up to nine feet,

Maybe a little shallower. But it was across the whole boat, they were seeing this. So they really wanted to excavate. Of course, no one has done that yet. But they were seeing this layer of high density materials versus the surrounding soil. – It almost looks like beans.

– Yeah, I mean, again, hard to know what it is, but if you think this is Noah’s Ark, it could be the remains of the deck or it could be the beams that supported the deck. We’re talking about more about an ancient ship and how it decays later on.

But for now, this is some of the results that, if this was just a natural rubble of dirt and rock, you would not see this. And so if I go back this point here, which is the way they did the grid system, this was negative 18 meters from the center line.

So right where that arrow and the highlighted red line is, that’s where they got this result. So again, and they were seeing this across the site, not just that one area where they scan, not just there, but across the whole site. So each one of these lines produced a scan.

And we have this report on our website too. So again, those are scans.com. You will find, you can download this and look at it yourself and zoom in and do whatever you want to do with it. This is their official 1987 report about the GPR work that they did.

Now, Dr. Erkan, I’m sorry, Dr. Arkanov, he is basically the father of Turkish archaeology. A lot of, and it’s called that because a lot of Turkish archaeologists today studied under him, he’s no longer around, but he started the whole archaeology program in the country of Turkey.

And he’s well known for finding, for example, the remains of the Hittite empire. He proved that the Hittites existed when no one knew who they were. So in 1985, I believe it was, March of ’85, Ron Wyatt and David Fasold visited him at his home in Ankara.

And he looked over just the basic information, like the photographs and the metal detector scans. And he said, this is the remains of an ancient ship and it has to be preserved. And we’ve been telling him that since that time, that, hey, we need the site preserved because it’s slowly decaying away.

And I believe the Turks are really interested in doing that. But at any rate, here’s a very important archaeologist who before even the GPR scans were out, was saying like, hey, this is the remains of the ship. We need to have this preserved. Now, after the ’80s and into the ’90s,

You still had critics though. Most of these critics, I would say, did not do any work on the site. They’d either come and visit there once. No one had a permit to do any work. So these guys would write up articles about what they thought it was.

And again, this whole idea that this is a rock formation that’s sitting in this valley and that it corresponds to the surrounding hills and here in front of the show that it was a cycline with the same rock type on both sides. And you had other reports coming out,

Showing that, claiming that it was this rock that slid down the mountainside. And then over time, over millions of years, glaciers formed into a ship shape. Those are what the critics will say about the ship. But no one, like all this stuff was written before some of the most recent scans were done

That disproved these claims. So since the ’90s, there’s actually, you could say probably since the early ’90s or late ’80s, there’s never been any full-scale work done on the boat, whether it’s scans or anything else. So in 2014, a private individual who’s an engineer with training in geophysical work,

John Larsen from New Zealand, he was able to get a permit to scan the boat. And I was part of the team. I brought in the media guys. So we filmed the whole thing. And if you go to his website, these are just screenshots from his website, but if you go to nozarkscans.nz,

Or N-Z, you can pull up what he’s printed and his interpretation of the scans. Now, the most famous thing that came out from his scans was this angle. It looks like, I call it a beached whale, but it looks like the hull of a ship.

And so he put this out on his website and then others have put it on YouTube and done interviews about it. And I myself have also since I was there and talked to him a lot about it. But on his website here, again, is this screenshot from his website,

Where they explain what he believes the remains below are like based on the scans that he did in 2014. He did a total of 13 scans on the site, I believe. And they’re all focused in on that boat to see what’s under the ground.

And so he had, forget how long the cable was, but it definitely was longer than the boat. The boat itself was, again, 515 feet long or 300 Egyptian cubits. And so to see below the ground with ERT, you need a cable that’s longer than the object you’re looking at.

So his cable, let me explain, ERT has to do with electricity. And so you use basically a car battery or some other system that will give you power out in the field. And then that will shoot electrical current into the soil. And then you have these steel pins that are in the ground.

The configuration depends on what you’re trying to do. But I think a lot of his pins were every two or three meters into the ground. And he did 13 of these scans that pure below the soil. And then the readings are collected back on a little chip back in the central unit.

And then you can download that data into 3D software and ERT software that can then interpret the model and filter and do whatever. And so he came up with some, one of the most interesting things is showing that how the boat’s laid out. ‘Cause the middle of the boat is wider

Than what the Bible says. And the Bible talks about it being 50 cubits wide or so. Yeah, 50 cubits. But his data is showing that the boat fell apart. Just like Ron Wyatt claimed and what a typical wooden boat does. When it sits out, when it was buried in the dirt,

It starts splaying apart and falling apart. And so that’s definitely what he was showing that if you were to put this little piece back, this piece that’s wider in the middle of the boat formation, you would get exactly in the middle 50 cubits. And so all of this information is on his website.

You can close up view a screenshot from his website explaining this. And he also believed that the data was showing that if you add up all the different layers below the amount of space between each thick layer, which he thought might’ve been the decks, you would get the height of the boat.

So he believed that the measurements given by Moses of Genesis, the 50 cubits and the 30 cubits, and even the 300 cubits long, that is the internal dimensions showing the capacity of the boat. Not telling us how wide the ceiling or the support beam for the floor was

Or how wide the hall, how thick was the hall, we don’t know. So he believed that the internal measurements matches what the biblical account says, being 30 cubits. And he adds up each of those measurements between the layers, you get 30 cubits. And so that’s, again, you read about it on his website.

And then he was also showing on some of the outside areas of this boat formation, again, inside the dirt, if you’re looking inside the dirt and you’re not excavating. So these scans are showing possible beams, petrified wood that would be the rib timbers of the boat.

And this is on the west side towards the rock. I don’t have the slides on the exact location of this, but they tried to stick some of their steel pins without knowing that this was there into the ground right there, ‘cause they’re doing this survey line. And the pins wouldn’t go in.

Like it was only two inches in, I think he said, you hit this hardened layer, but it was like two feet wide and 20 feet tall. And so they had to move over past the two feet mark and they were able to stick the pins in. But then when they processed the data,

They realized what was the issue, why these pins would not go into the ground right there, is that below the surface is this highly resistive material that looks like possibly say a timber, a rib of a ship, petrified rib timber. And so this was, again, really interesting seeing that from his ERG scans.

So this got a lot of the Turks interested at the time. So this was 2014 that this was done. And then from that point on, ‘cause I was part of the media vet team, I talked to my local contact here who’s out there. I said, “Hey, let’s try to do more.

Let’s use this data to pursue excavations, to do more studies on the boats.” And that left with a lot of ups and downs, that’s kind of what we’ve been doing since 2014 up till now. And thankfully in 2022, last November, two Turkish universities announced that they are interested

In studying the site and actually came out to the site to pull out material to do initial studies at the laboratories of the rocks there. And they want to continue their work. And so this is, I would say that probably because of the 2014 scans, because it’s made such news

And most people had ran off the boats since the 1990s. It was just there for those who wanted to become a tourist, but no one was really doing any sign of the word. Now, in 2019, we were able to do GPR scans ourselves. And this was filmed by the Discovery’s Science Channel.

We were here for a whole week. We had a lot of miracles happen with regards to the weather and the team coming together and the finances all happening so that we could do this. About one week we had open and do this in October, 2019.

And so this work that we did in 2019 showed some really interesting results. And this is on our YouTube channel. And the report is on the nosarscans.com website. And one of the most interesting things that was sold at about 20 feet below the ground, right angles.

So in 2019, we were able to have the whole boat scan. And when I say we, we brought in a team and we had hired from America, just random people, a friend, I should say an acquaintance. Let me tell you this story. So it was late September of 2019.

And I got a random email from someone who had wanted to volunteer and wanted to know like what’s the status of the work on the Ozark, are we gonna do anything? And I mentioned, ‘cause we had just talked to some Turkish scientists that we have the possibility to do

Geophysical work, radar and other types of scans. And so this guy said, “Hey, a friend of mine is a VP of this company. And they do heritage preservation projects. They use GPR, they use LiDAR laser to make a 3D model of a site to know when it’s light

And serve it for the future.” And so anyways, we got excited. And so that was late September. And then we did the scans, I believe the third week of October. So within that two week period, we were able to get contracts signed, get tickets bought, fundraise, $25,000 plus and get all this done.

And then the weather just happened to work out great for us because the week before this team showed up, it was rainy. Oh no, you can’t use GPR when it’s raining. The result, you can’t penetrate as deep when it’s wet. So you need dry soil. And so we prayed.

And when the team got here, like the day they showed up and they started to work the next day, crystal clear weather and some of the clearest weather we ever seen from the boat site, you can look out and see the distance our media

On the other side of Mount Air at, many miles away. And that whole week, Monday to Thursday, no rain until they got all the work done. And Friday, they had a free day to visit around and do some touristy things. And it rained that day.

So God had it all planned out for them to do the work. Amazing. But some of the, and then we took the data and we handed it off to a third party in the United States. One, this guy who an expert and trains archaeologists on how to use GPR.

And so he was hired to review the data. Again, some of you don’t even know who’s not part of our project. And he was able to pinpoint areas inside the ship formation. And basically said that if he was going to do an excavation, this is one of the spots because he said,

Usually you don’t see this type of right angles in nature. And you can see up there, we have closeups of this on our website. So those who want to study it, but this is on the Northwest downhill side of the boat. We’re seeing about seven meters down or 20 feet down

These right angles. And so that got him interested. Now on the other side of where we found these, on the Eastern side of that downhill North end of the boat, we’re also seeing parallel lines. Here’s a straight down view of this initial, where we’re seeing some of these right angles,

This angular structure at the bottom end of the boat, the Northwestern end. And here’s a closeup of that. This overlaying on the boat formations. Again, idea where we’re seeing this 20 feet down, but we also were finding right angles, some parallel lines here. I’m sorry, we’re also seeing parallel lines,

Some that show right angles. And this was about eight to nine feet down, about three meters. I don’t have the slide in this one. I didn’t get it in at the time, but here on this, I think it’s on our YouTube channel. One of the videos that shows that on this Eastern side,

Again, on the bottom North end, the rounded end of the boat formation, we’re seeing really distinct, these parallel lines showing up on the scans. In fact, when we were filming this, the History Channel had their team there and they were brought in, not the History Channel, Discovery Channel.

So they brought in a third party production company. They hired out of London. And so these guys, they told us, they knew the story of Noah’s ark, but they were basically atheist and they’re hired to do a job for the network. So they came up through filming.

And when the day that they found these parallel lines below the ground, my friend, he was with the GPR operator, just those two on the boat, he had his iPhone out. And the guy was like, “Hey, look, like he’s at nine feet. Now we’re seeing these lines.

We got a capture the moment they started seeing this. We got captured on an iPhone video.” They went back and told everyone, obviously. And then that got the Discovery Channel’s production team so excited. And they, in fact, the main guy, the producer, whoever he was, he called, he said,

He texted or called his grandmother that night. He said his grandmother was a believer, a Catholic. And she believed in the story of those art. She was so excited about this discovery that they’re seeing what looked to be manmade, and naturally you wouldn’t find these, they were saying, this manmade parallel line

That I’d be down inside the boat formation. So again, this was 2019, GPR was done. And then fast forward a couple of years ago in 2021, basically during the pandemic, you could say, the Turkish governor’s office here got really interested and they decided to sponsor a geophysical survey of their own.

And they brought in a team and we were there to film it. And we also help financially pay for small items for like the meals of their hotel room. But we basically filmed the work, interviewed them. Now I don’t have scan results from that.

And I was really hoping that we would have it in time for the summer, maybe we will still have the possibility. They have not released the data yet, but a couple of months after they did the scans, here’s some clips. We have a video of the work being done

On their YouTube channel, Discovered Media, but the drone work and interviewed them and showed them doing their work, but here they’re doing it on radar. But the biggest thing that they did was ERT. So remember, just the 14, John Larsen from New Zealand did his ERT work.

Well, he was focused on, he did 13 scans, but his scans were focused on the boat. All the scans, you wanna see what was in the boat. What they were wanting to know is how does this boat compare to the surrounding terrain and the material all around that area?

So they did 39 scans and their cable was three times as long as the arc. So a much longer cable meaning they could penetrate deeper into the side of the mountain. And so they got a lot more data with ERT. Now they also did a GPR, which did produce really good results

Because they had rain when they were there. And so on some of the sunny days, they did some of the GPR, but then they get really good out of it. The penetration was really bad, but the ERT was really good. And so a couple of months after they did this work,

End of January, early February of 2022 last year. So my friends Zafar and I, we flew to the company that they hired. We went to their headquarters on the Black Sea here in Turkey in the city of Samsun. And there we met with the CEO of the company

Who handed his team CEO the blue jacket there, but his team right here. We met with him and he was able to show us the initial results on his phone and talk about it and answer our question, the American team and Zafar and myself. And he was saying that basically it’s showing

That there’s something unique below the ground, just within that boat formation and not outside into the surrounding areas. And again, remember they did 39 scans that went way out into the surrounding terrain outside the boat formation. And so we’re waiting to see more data about this

And also have, hopefully we can review it ourselves with the independent scientists and geophysicists. We’ll see. So right now we don’t have any to show yet besides what they showed us in person in private. – So this would help either confirm or debunk the theory that someone said that this was

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After I talk about Solly, because Solly who’s been studying this, again, I mentioned him, this was a photo from last year and this is the boat right over there. And so he’s been studying this since, as I said, 1985. And being a geologist, he understands how geology affects the region there.

He’s not an archaeologist, but again, you’re dealing with, as he said, you need a multiple discipline, multi-discipline team, a sedentologist, geologist, archaeologist and others. And the reason why is because he said, if he believes that this is the boat of Noah and it’s been sitting there for thousands of years,

To interpret what you see, you have to understand the geology around it. Like how did it get here? How did the forces around it, the natural forces, whether it’s rain or the mud or the dirt, how did it affect the decaying remains of the boat? So you can’t just say,

I had an archaeologist here to excavate. This would be the oldest man-made object. So he believes that you need all of these scientists involved. Now, as a geologist, he said, you can’t interpret this site as a natural formation, the way that those critics have. It’s not a cent climb.

It’s not this rock that came down from the mountain. I was going to show a graphic. I think I have it here. So this is, for example, this is a graphic from him, one of his reports that it’s on our website. You can download.

Now it’s in Turkish, but I can just point out some things I highlighted on the screen here, the green arrow, the green circle. So this is the valley floor. It’s full of mud all the way up to what you see today. So these would be the hills, like the visitor center

At the Uzengelli village is over there. That’s the west side. The east side over here, it goes up this mountain or this hill. And then you have this valley that’s full of material, dirt, rocks, but on the very top floating on the surface is this boat formation,

But it does have a rock in the middle of it. So the critics have pointed out and saying, oh, that rock, that’s part of this basement rock, ‘cause it’s similar. It’s made from, it’s like a limestone type rock. And you see it on either side. And so they assume that this rock would,

Like it’s popped up out of the ground, but come from the base down here at the bottom, the basement rock from the outside. point out. Sally pointed out to me, said, look, there’s nothing in geology that would do that. You can’t have this column of rock,

Hundreds of feet in like a pillar coming up all the way to the top, being exposed and causing a boat formation. So he said, based on his understanding of geology and it’s studying the site, this rock is floating in the middle of the boat. It’s not part of the surrounding area.

And it came down with the boat. It either rolled into the middle where it’s at, but it was not where it’s at today. It came down with the boat. And so, and this was his interpretation. Now he didn’t know anything about the 2021 scans. You didn’t see the results,

But I’ve always been interested in that rock because critics always use it against the site. So I asked the Turkish scientists who did the 2021 scans, is it based on his ERT scans? Remember they did 39 of these scans all the way out into the mudflow and 1500 meters long cable,

Or 500 meter long cables. It was 1500 feet. So three times as long as the boat. And so they went really deep into the mountain site. So I asked them, what does the scan show about this rock? He said, oh, it’s floating there. It’s a big boulder, but it’s not part of,

It doesn’t go down to the basement rock. It doesn’t connect to the mountain. And so here’s the guy independently verifying what Dr. Salih Bayraktutan is showing. And it was exciting because again, it shows that this is not, ‘cause some of the critics, and I think I have a graphic coming up,

Will say that this whole thing is one big rock and it came down from above, higher up on the mountain side, and then sat here. And then they say glaciers over millions of years formed a streamlined boat formation. But we’re not seeing that.

The scans are showing that there are layers below the ground, a mix of dirt and rock. It is not a solid rock, limestone, but rock that’s just the shape of a boat. Some people are claiming. – So that big rock, is that that hump that you see in the scene?

– Yeah, let me, wow. – ‘Cause I remember I’ve seen that hump and I’ve always wondered, you know, what was up with that. – It’s beside that hump. So the hump itself might be part of that, but the hump, like when you’re walking on it, it’s dirt and grass and shrubs.

But just on the southern uphill end of the hump is where the exposed rock itself is. That’s exposed to the sea and the scent on it. Now I don’t have, I should have put another slide of an aerial photograph. I would go all the way back to the start of the slideshow,

But maybe at the end, I’ll go back to that. So we can look at the drone photo of the site and point out the rock. Now talking about, we’re kind of wrapping up here, but talking about how an ancient boat decays. So you hear these stories about a perfectly preserved boat

Up on this volcano Ararat, which is about 70 miles north of where we’re at. And so people, you know, 50 years ago, 100 years ago, they said, oh, you know, the boat is preserved up there and it’s this barn shape or it’s in two or three pieces,

But basically you have a preserved boat sitting on this outside edge or inside a glacier that’s glacier grains down stuff. None of it made sense. But if you look at an arcaheology and compare how wooden boats decay over time, these are more recent ones, it’s smaller boats, they’re not 515 feet long,

But like this was a Viking Royal Burial ship. They’re buried in the ground, not in the water. This was in Southeast England, I believe. It was called the Sooten Hoo. If you go to the British Museum, you can see the artifacts. A really spectacular find.

They buried somebody in there with a lot of treasures. But when they excavated it about 100 years ago, they uncovered the imprint or the shape of the ship because all the beams have rotted, all the hull had rotted, and it left thousands of rivets in the side.

So the iron, the metal rivets were still there. The shape was there, but the beams had gone away. Now on this ship, we believe it’s Noah’s Ark, we’re seeing thick layers of highly resistant material, the GPR, the right angles, the ERT. So it’s suggesting that it didn’t just rot away

From Noah’s Ark, but we’re having possible petrified wood. Again, we need to excavate the site. Here’s an example. Now a friend that did this on Facebook put this together. So I can’t claim credit for this, but it shows on the left side, different types of ships that,

Most of this is on the water except for the last, this one. But these were all decaying wooden boats and how they kind of fall apart, just lay out. The hull gets deformed and you see the shape of the boat. And then over on the right side,

You see the drum of our boat formation. And so this is kind of what you would expect with the boat decaying and the material around it, the soil and the rocks that now it always becomes part of the mountain side. So, but there’s, like what Sally says,

There’s something unique about even this decay boat formation you have here, because you’re finding that the formation is staying the same size and shape. It hasn’t like fallen out further, it hasn’t gotten longer since we started taking photographs of this over 60 years ago. So we looked at the original photographs of 1959,

And then the aerial photographs of 1961. And then all the other photographs since then, the boat is still there, but the material around it, the mudslide has changed. You know, when earthquakes hit, seismic activity happens, the winter storms that come through. So Sally wants to really, his next study,

He says he really wants to study the soil to find out what is unique about the soil, that somehow when the boat became, it made the soil around it harden, so it doesn’t fall apart. – Well, I wonder if the pitch has something to do with that. – Yeah, exactly.

– People forget this boat was designed by God. It was dictated to Noah from God. So he used gopher wood and cover it in pitch, and that was used, it was a resin to make the boat waterproof. So therefore, this boat is sitting there. That’s why it ain’t decaying and busting apart.

And even if it is kind of, what do you call that, liquefaction, that resin is probably spreading out from the boat, probably even making it an exterior protected shell. – Exactly, the molecules from whatever is, that was pettified wood, but also the resin that would cover it made it waterproof,

And whatever other technology that was used that the Bible doesn’t mention, that’s affecting the actual soil that we walk on today, and what we see on the edges of this boat formation. So Sally wants to study that further, because you can physically see today that there’s something there that’s keeping the shape

While the same type of soil around it is falling apart and changing every year. So anyways, this is a good graphic. This was a really good quote. So Dr. William Shay, who’s no longer with us, but he wrote an article in 1976, before he even visited the site.

He was reviewing some of the photographs of another geologist. So he was an archaeologist, a biblical scholar, but Dr. Burdick, who visited the site with Earl Cummings, and I believe it was 1972 or ’73, they went to the site, and then in a creation journal, scientific journal by creation group,

They published two articles, Dr. Burdick’s article, and both these articles are on our website, but his article, this was in ’76 if they published it, he was basically saying, “Ah,” he walked on it, he thought at that time it was a clay up push,

That this thing showed up and it’s hard to clay. That was his reason for how you got boat formation there. Dr. Shay was saying, “Hey, look,” this was his summary of his article, saying, “Hey, we have this boat formation, there’s almost an exact length.”

Now, we know it isn’t an exact length given in the Bible, but at that time, they didn’t measure it, he was not on site, he was writing this article back in America, but he was saying, “And they found this exact same shape on the big mountain that everyone

Has always been focused in on, on Mount Ararat.” So all these groups have been going up there for many years, trying to find the ark. And he said, “And they had found this exact same shape up there would be a different story.” Like people would herald this as though it was the ark,

Instead of just forgetting about it. This was the middle of 1970s. And so then a couple years later, Ron Wyatt showed up and did his first trip, and then he contacted Dr. Shay, and they did collaborate. Dr. Shay wrote up a couple more articles with Ron’s data about it.

But I think this is a really key quote about this. Can you think of all the hundreds of thousands, probably millions of dollars that has been spent by different creation groups or individuals looking for Noah’s Ark, especially on Mount Ararat, but even other mountains, if all that energy

And time and money was spent to focus on this site, all this work could have been done a long time ago, I think. And so here we are in 2003, and we’re looking at what the Turks will be doing, and hopefully their data will help support what the scans show.

Now they do want to do their own scans too, so we’re always doing scans, but they want to get past that and do core drilling. Everyone’s afraid to excavate, and the reason is they claim that obviously, as we mentioned before, excavations would destroy the site. Everyone comes there to see the boat formation,

Take pictures of the boat formation. So if you put a big pit in it, you lose that shape. But someone suggested maybe they could tunnel in from the east side, the site is further away from the visitor center, so you would have to see it,

But they could then see what’s below the ground. Obviously, core drilling too would help. So now obviously tunneling horizontally is not a typical archaeological method, because they want to see the stratigraphy by going straight down. But at any rate, that’s where we’re at today with the work,

And so we’re hoping to be able to team up with these two universities and help them out. In fact, we have three meetings so far this year with the local university about how they could help them. And we’ll have more news about that in a week or two.

Right now, again, it’s a holiday here in Turkey, so as soon as BiROM is finished and this holiday, they will get back to work and we can meet with them again to finalize our involvement. We’ll let everybody know how they can get involved. But the scans, I believe, definitely show

That it’s not a solid rock that’s from the local area. And so that disproves a couple of these scientific papers that these scientists have pushed out to critique the site and claim that it’s natural. So that definitely disproves that. And then also, the scans show that that big boulder,

In summary, that this boulder here in the middle of the boat, and I’ll show another photo, here we are back at the first slide. So this big boulder here, right at the end of this central hump, is not part of the natural area. It doesn’t connect into basement rock.

It’s floating there in the middle of the bazaar. – And you can even see a cave-in right here, it looks like. See how it’s moved in? – Yeah, so it looks like- – Like the rock hit it and broke it down, maybe. – Exactly, like it rolled down to where it’s at.

Now, maybe it did roll in right here. Now, sadly, I believe that it came down with the boat that rolled further up the hillside. But anyway, it is free floating, let’s say, in the mud and dirt. It’s not just sitting there, part of the mountain side. ‘Cause the one theory was that, again,

That this was Mozark, this was Ronald White’s theory, that this was Mozark, but when it came down to this valley, it hit this rock that was part of the basement, and then it snagged it and caught the boat, stopped it from floating down.

We’re not seeing that, so that part we would disagree with. But we are showing that this rock has nothing to do with the shape. It didn’t form this shape, like all the critics are saying, that it didn’t come down with the boat, it rolled in.

And so the reason why the boat is stuck where it’s at today, according to Dr. Salih Bayraktutan, has to do with fluid dynamics and how these mud flow. Now, I don’t have a zoomed out view, but you can look on our YouTube videos and maybe even on our website,

We have photographs of this whole area, drone photos showing more of the surrounding terrain. But what it shows is that the mud flow uphill, it was pointed in as uphill, so that’s the southern side, that the mud’s coming down. We have two regions, one straight up south of here,

And then one to the southeast. And it’s all coming down and converging on this valley where the boat is today. And according to Salih, this mud flow is pushing the formation up against this western side of the valley and keeping it there, ‘cause based on friction or whatever,

But it basically pushed it up and kept it there and held it in place. It had nothing to do with the rock snagging the boat. And we’re saying that that’s true now because we’re saying from the scans of the rock, it’s not part of the surrounding area here.

And so he was able to explain. So again, this is somebody who blew the snow bazaar, is able to explain what we’re seeing today ‘cause he knows geology, as matching what we’re seeing from the recent scans. So he’s a really key figure and we’re hoping to get

All that knowledge in his head out onto video ‘cause he’s been up there at age. But yeah. – And nevermind it’s completely backwards. If what they’re saying, the mud flow going down around this thing is what formed it, why does it get wider as it goes down instead of narrower?

– Yeah, in fact, some of the people back in the ’80s who had never been here, they would actually switch the photograph around. They’ve made that the top end, based on how you look at a photograph, you see you have the uphill end, the orientation on the photo, the top side.

But yes, this is the top end. Plants is getting in the way here, but the pointed end is uphill. The rounded end is downhill. As we talked about in our previous podcast, this is a good point showing how fluid dynamics did not naturally create the shape. ‘Cause when people say,

“Oh, there’s a rock there obstructing the mud.” The mud builds around the rock and form the shape. But except that’s not how it works, it would be of the opposite. That rounded end would be uphill and the pointed end would be downhill based on gravity flows or affects the shape of the flow.

And so, yeah, there’s more proof that this is not a natural object, that something’s there. – Man, Andrew, I really appreciate you taking the time and talking to us and explaining all this. You were very thorough. Hopefully we can have any more. – Glad it all worked out.

– Yeah, man, it is beautiful. But yeah, I definitely wanna bug you some more. I mean, I wanna pick your brain on the– – We have some more. – Red Sea Cross and– – Yes, for sure. – Mount Sinai, all that stuff, I love all that stuff.

– Oh, that’s some of my favorite topics right there. The Exodus route at Mount Sinai. But yes, we’ll be glad to continue this conversation. – Oh yeah, we’ll nerd out again. (laughs) – Love it. – All right. Well, thank you, brother. I really appreciate your time. [music fades out]

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