Extraordinary World Traveler Started Traveling And Can’t Stop
Father was an alcoholic, and he didn’t like it. Actually, when we were at home, I didn’t drink alcohol. I don’t use drugs, even though people think I do all the time. If you live such a cheap life,
Don’t go traveling. What do you say to the people who are giving comments like this on the platform? Today, I bumped into a person who traveled for 45 years. Now, normally I talk to a lot of different people in one video, but because it’s such an interesting character, we are just dedicating
This video to our new friend. It’s going to be an interesting conversation. I hope you’re excited. I’ve been one month here in Vietnam, but I’ve been many times in Asia, and Vietnam is amazing. I thought completely different about it. In a few days, we go to Cambodia,
Then to Laos, and then to Thailand. Nice. So you’re backpacking at the moment. Yeah. Have you been backpacking before, like any times? Yeah, yeah, since I was 13. Oh, really? Yeah. What makes you travel so much? To meet local people, usually, to try to meet local people. But before,
It was much easier than now. Why is that? I think because of the mobile phones everywhere. Ah, I’ve been 15 times in India. I’ve been a few times in Thailand, Malaysia, everywhere. And since, for me, since the introduction of these phones, it’s changed totally. If you look at the
People now, even when it’s a football game, 80% is on their mobile phone playing games. And when there is some cheering on the screen, they look, okay. So it’s a different world we live in. Yeah, I’m 58, so I know. I’m born in 1990. Yeah, so you’re born with this thing. Pretty much,
Yeah. But I also see that it’s… Yeah, probably nicer before. I think, for me, yeah. Because before I traveled a lot alone, but you’re never alone. If you travel now alone, it’s much more difficult to meet people. Even in guest houses in the morning, it’s quiet. Everybody is
Looking at his phone. Everybody before everybody was talking to everybody, but it’s finished. Where have you been? You mentioned Thailand. So you’ve been a lot to India, you’re saying, but Southeast Asia, most of the time, it was like Singapore and Malaysia and Thailand for
A few months, and then I jumped to Australia or to New Zealand, like this. I’ve done the same thing. I’ve done a year or two in Australia and New Zealand. Now I’m still backpacking in a way,
But a little bit different. I’ve got a small suitcase on me this time, you know. I’ve only like 5 kilos. Oh yeah. All my life I have 5 kilos, and even those 5 kilos is even two and a half kilo
Too much, I think. Yeah. So what’s that, like a few shirts, some underwear? No, just one shirt I have. Oh yeah, and every few days, like everywhere is laundry now. You just bring your clothes in,
You wait for 3 hours in your underwear somewhere, and you get it back. It’s clean, yeah. True, true, true, true. You don’t need a lot of things, no. True. Friends of mine, went for one month to Vietnam, and the girl had 25 underwear with her. Every day another one. She didn’t want
To wash. I say, you don’t have to wash. You just bring us somewhere. I have a mosquito net. That’s for me the most important. What’s the plan for a regular day? W hat are you doing today, let’s say?
I was on my way to get something to drink and go back to my girlfriend because she’s waiting for me. And then change some money, okay. The man from the hostel say you have to go to a jewelry
Just behind here, okay. It gives a very good rate. We’re walking around looking for some nice street food. Because we always looking for special street food. How long are you traveling this time? Four months. How do you do that with work and all that? Can you—I don’t work anymore. No,
I—it’s funny, ‘cause I just was in Finland in the newspaper with the whole story of my life. No way, yeah. Okay, in Europe, I travel with a new Suzuki Jimny. That’s what I travel in Europe with around. And here, I just sometimes rent a motorcycle or just public transport.
I backpacked myself as well for many years. But how do you do it, for the people who don’t understand a backpack…—what are—what, how do you do this?! Are you always on holiday? Yeah, actually, yes. Yeah? For since I was. I stopped working when I was 40. But I live a simple life.
I don’t drink beer. I don’t use drugs. I don’t gamble. Just, I met already some crazy guys when I was traveling. I met one guy. He was from Holland anyway, and he had, like, a few thousand
Bitcoins. And he was just sitting on the beach. He was like 25 years. He won them with some games when he was young. And every night, he was drunk. Every day, he was drunk. But I think it doesn’t—it
Isn’t going to make his 50. Why are you telling this story that the guy that… Some people do it with Bitcoins traveling all their life because he was not working anymore. Then again, you’re saying you live quite—you live quite simple….? I live very simple. But still, you need at least,
Let’s say, especially in Southeast Asia, I would say, and you can argue this, maybe 6, 700 per month. You can do it with less, of course, but… We do it with like maybe 600 for two persons. Okay, yeah, yeah. So that’s very basic. Very basic, yeah. We only eat street food,
Yeah, yeah. And we now we sleep for 250, but we have already like rooms for 120. When my wife died about 10 years ago, and she was sick for 10 years. Oh, wow. Yeah. We had a good, sorry,
Just—we had a good house, and I sold it. And then I bought a house in the south of my country. So I do it with the money that I collect from my house. But I know people, if you’re
A bit good in trading, some people, they just laptop, and they trade every day a little bit, and they can make money. I didn’t do nothing with trading or whatever, but I just… Yeah. But you don’t need much money. And I had a choice when my wife died. I could buy a Ferrari,
But then 14 days, I will brake it, Ithink. I just live simple. I’ve been this year in like, my girlfriend, she was counting, we’ve been in Georgia by car, Turkey, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark. I did this year already like 22,000 Km, and we sleep in the car.
Yeah, yeah, and now, here, what’s your plan in Vietnam? We just came from north to south slowly, and we are not, like, we want to see everything, okay? We just relax and see what’s come on our path. So live an easy life, yeah? Easy,
Okay, yeah. Because the woman who gave me this shirt, she was a month ago in Vietnam, the one with the 20 underwear, and she spent like €7,000 in one month in Vietnam. But she did, like, every tour what’s possible, then you pay like 180/200, then it goes fast. But then she’s like,
Every time in the morning, 7:00, we pick you up. She came home, and she was tired. Every day she planned something because she has only one month holiday. Then people want to get the most out of one holiday. And I think that’s, yeah, it’s for everybody different. I think most of people,
Don’t aspire to travel for such a long time. They just want to go on holiday for, and then you can splash it. Everyone to themselves. Yeah? Everybody… yeah. My favorite is a sailboat, but I don’t have the money for a sailboat. Even if I had the money, I wouldn’t be able to sail,
But that sounds like a dream. 45 years traveling. Yes. You started when you were 13, yeah? Can I ask you what happened when you were 13? How come you were in the position you were traveling?
Was it needing to travel? It was actually like a kind of escape because I have very bad parents. Oh? Yes. Okay. Father was an alcoholic, yeah, and he didn’t like it that we were at home.
So the first time I was 13, and I said I go away. And I was away for 3 months. And at that time, there was no mobile phone, no GPS, there was nothing. I just had in my head the
Map of Europe. So I wanted to go to Spain. I was hitchhiking, of course, ‘cause I had not much money. A truck driver stopped, okay, and I asked him Spain, and he nodded, yes. I got in,
And I fell asleep in his car. A few hours later, I woke up, but then I saw a big sign, “Benvenuto Italia.” So I walked and hitchhiked along that road, and it took me 5 days to get into Spain.
On the way, because I didn’t have luggage, many times when I saw laundry hanging out, I swapped my t-shirt for a clean T-shirt, and even my underwear sometimes I swapped for a clean one. So this is when you were 13 years old,? Yes 13 years? Wow! Yeah. but at that time,
The world was different. Along the Mediterranean, bakeries and small grocery shops, left everything outside. They just put a cloth over it to protect it from dust or whatever. So if I needed an apple, I could steal an apple. Wow. There must be a point in your life where you were working as well,
Probably when you were maybe 15, 16 years old, you were working. How did you manage to travel and keep your budget this way that you were actually able to travel? Because I didn’t drink alcohol,
I don’t use drugs. Even people think I do all the time. I don’t gamble. And if you ask people all over the world to help you, 99% will say yes, easy. Especially if you’re a child. Of course,
You have to be careful because I had a lot of gay men wh tried to lure me in as well. Wow! Yeah. If you’re hitchhiking and the man says, “Look at the dog. If I say bite you, he will bite you. So
Now you’re going to listen to me.” Wow. And then he put his hand on my lap once. No! I said, “No problem, man. I like men. No worries.” But then the next traffic light, I jumped out of the car.
Yeah. Things like this I did, yeah. Wow, so it’s not only girls that try to lure in; it’s also men. Yeah, yeah. Now doesn’t happen so much anymore. And then I’m 13, I come home after 3 months,
And I was a bit afraid maybe my father going to be angry. Because I was away for 3 months. He didn’t. He knew nothing of me for 3 months because there was nothing at that time. But then he said, “Ah,
You’re back already?” something like this. And then I said, “Okay, next year, I go longer.” The upsetting about my life, I was always in boarding school till I was 13. There was no boarding school
Anymore. Then my father said, “You can live with me, but you have to pay to live with me.” Wow, so he gave us a job because he was a pastry cook. So every weekend when we were at home, we worked two
Times 12 hours, so 24 hours in a weekend. Okay. Yeah, for that, I got like at that time two, but my father took half because we lived with him. We were 13 years old. So that’s tough. I can imagine
That was sometimes also lonely and sad? Yeah. I was lonely and sad because… But another thing, it made me like what I am now. Because I had always a little bit of money. Not much,
But I had money. Because he took half. So the other half was for me. So it was like something like 20 now every weekend. But I also had to pay for my food at home. Wow, still you were still a
Child. But so many years later, can you say you’re happy? I’m happy in one way. I didn’t like how my childhood was. Because I think I missed a lot of things like a normal child. But in the other way,
I never in my life had money problems. Because I spend the money that I have, and I don’t spend what I don’t have. Or what I think… I think a lot of people spend money they
Think what they’re going to have in a few weeks. But yeah, that’s not sure. And if you always live like in front, I think it’s not correct. Okay, but then we talk about money, and I think we both know that money doesn’t make people happy. Maybe not enough money can make you
Unhappy, I believe. But talk about happiness. Are you loose from the financial situation that you’re in? Are you a happy person? Yeah, yeah, I know. I know. I took a risk. Because I sold my house, now it’s about 10 years ago, I think I sold. And I know I have
Money till I’m 68. The good thing is I still have a house. Now, because I sold my house, I bought another house, I restored it, and so I still have… You’re a handy man? Yeah. Can you teach us something? Let’s say what you. learned over all these years of traveling, seeing the world.
Live today. Don’t put your things “when I’m 65”. When I was 18, my friend immigrated to Australia, and I went visiting him because he started that Chocolate Factory. And I met a lot of people 65 years old on pension doing all those expensive things like big hotels, big touristic trips,
A lot of things that, but they were complaining about it’s too hot, it’s too this, it’s too that. It’s always something. The older you get, I think not for everybody, but older you get, the more issues they’re coming when you’re traveling. Okay. If you’re young and you don’t sleep for
One or two nights, it’s not a problem. But if you’re 60 and you don’t sleep for two nights, it’s going to be a big problem. If you’re 65, I think more problem. But I think just live…
Why do you say it? Live the day! Because tomorrow you never know. How about the ultimate travel story? Do you have one story that you can share with us? I like New Zealand a lot. I was cycling
In New Zealand from the South to North Island. Wow. And I cycled in Australia also, Tasmania. Wow. And America, I cycled because on a bicycle, it really cost nothing. In America, I was cycling, and everywhere people selling fruit or food along the street in America. And I just stop, and I like
Talking to people. And I start talking, and then they give me some food. I ask, and then I ask how much. You have to pay, what you think they say? Nothing. You’re just a nice guy. Hey, cycle on. No
Problem. You don’t have to pay. I was 2 months and a half cycling from Miami South to New York with 500 USD. That’s insane. Yeah, it’s insane. And another thing that’s insane. But you think that’s also insane? yeah! It’s, but it’s done. It’s doable. Yeah. Yeah. You don’t need,
You don’t need… That’s what I also, my message to my friends back home and whoever is watching now. That you don’t need a lot of money to go holiday, to travel, to backpack. And especially now with that couch surfing thing and welcome to my garden thing. I said, that’s a good thing about
These phones and the internet. You can find a lot of cheap places to stay. And if you’re a bit inventive, it works. In the States, there was something stupid. I go to McDonald’s in the
States and I ask, can I have some water for free, just water? You say no, but then I ask, can I have some ice cubes for free? Because everybody was taking ice cubes. They say, yeah, you can have ice cubes for free. So what’s ice cubes? It’s just frozen water. And it’s outside.
It’s 35°C. So you fill one gallon, one of those big gallon things you fill it with ice cubes. And after, and you have cool. You’ve done this one. Yeah. I did it all the time. If you’re cycling, you need water. You don’t need Coca-Cola because then you need more, but you need water.
I’ve got a friend who’s living a budget life. Not even as extreme as you were mentioning, no, nothing like that. Nothing close to that. But he also is on social media on YouTube, and he get some people that are saying you’re a cheap skate, and, if you live such a cheap life,
Don’t go traveling. What do you say to the people who are giving comments like this on the platform? I was a chocolate maker before. So I know a lot of rich people. They never want to live
Like I live. But it’s in life you have, usually, you have money, but you don’t have the time. I don’t have much money, but I have time. I say to those guys, one day you’re going to die. So
Make the best out, just do whatever you like, and don’t listen to others, don’t judge other people. Just let everybody do what they want. I must say if everybody lives like I live, the world economy goes like this ‘cause I almost buy nothing. How many people sleep every night in
The park? And I saw people coming like if they coming late night, like last night, some people with suitcases they came at 11:30pm into the Park, yeah, and then they have to pay for that night Normally, if you check in. And they say: WtK. We just stay one night in the park…
They’re with 4 or five, they’re going to grab some beers they sitting there chatting to each other and they wait till 8:00 in the morning and then they check in so they save a night. I was before
Alone, but if you with a group it’s much more safer because that’s another thing it’s safety, yeah? If you sleep on the street it’s possible, but you have to be careful. In America when I was
Cycling, I always went to some people who lived on the street, and I asked them, hey, can I stay one night with you around? They said, what the [ __ ] who are you? Say yeah, I’m from Belgium, I
Start talking to them. “I’m cycling. I don’t have much money. I just want to stay with you, just for safety. Yeah, they say it’s not safe here. I say, yeah, but it’s safer with you than I’m alone somewhere. And you did that?
Yeah, and they are happy to have you. You’re going to carry on backpacking for much longer, right? Yeah, till I Die I think. Yeah, I’ve been doing it since I was 13. Do you have a message to the world or
Some wisdom to pass on? Take it away. We can’t change history, but we can change the history of tomorrow. And I wish everybody a good life. And whatever you do, enjoy it. Do nothing that you don’t enjoy, okay? That’s what I say. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas. If you want to know more about his story, I leave a link in the description. This channel is based in Thailand. We’re showing you the beauty of Southeast Asia, and we’re meeting a lot of interesting people along the way. And I think we did meet a very interesting person,
And I hope you enjoy this video. Thank you all for watching till the very end. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year already. I would like to say from Ho Chi Minh City, bye for now, and stay champ.”
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30 Comments
Wow! This man is at a nirvana point. Such wisdom… I would love to have a friend like him in my life. Great interview buddy. Thank you very much. 🙋♂
Amazing, viking globetrotter God 🙂
I would say exactly the same thing as this man, but I’am 71, got the travel bug from 3 years old lol, just going on the train every school holiday from London to the Isle of Wight, then a school trip at 10 years old to Bologna then Amsterdam in 1968, then St Ives in Cornwall, then hitched to Munich in 1970, then Greece, Spain, France, then in 1974 USA, Canada and Mexico, on and on lived 5 years in Colombia, then another 40 countries. Now happy in Thailand 😊. Is he related to Richard Branson?
Great guest & interview, I’m travelling through Thailand now considering a move to the Philippines, never been there.
Inspiring
He is the perfect example for breaking out of the system in which all people are caught in only for money to pay for house,car,electricity,food and the high taxes of the country where we living in. He is a role model that shows that it´s possible to make the things different. Great Video and please more of such people from whom we can learn.
Really interesting character! Thanks for this amazing interview! I guess I would get travel burnout if I lived like that, because at some point I need some routine, a save haven and even need to do some work to have the feeling of contributing something to society. 😅
You never cease to find interesting people Chai! Thanks for sharing this video and Merry Christmas 🎄
I'm living his way of life now. And I love it! Born in Vietnam but raised in Canada now back in hcmc
This guys a legend, rock star appearance and lives frugally, saves financially on haircuts and whatever else and lives the simple life. Great story and I am assuming he has a rental income coming in from his property he owns which helps finance his lifestyle. Good for him!! Brilliant. Thinking I know who you were talking about re a fellow YouTuber, me having gone walkabout for a few moments to think about it and work it out . Top man he is and an absolute Bobby Dazzler. Love his work and his recent travels. A big favourite of mine. This guy interviewed had me onside from the very first minute when he described how the technological world has taken over minds and imagination and turned people into zombies. He nailed it with his comments, so so true. Top video this mate. Cheers 🍻🤩
Sounds like he is using the services and infrastructure of poor countries while contributing literally nothing, i think they have a word for that
Wow.. What an inspiring story of life this man has. Respect 🫡
I can fully relate to running away from a childhood experience. However, some people like this nice gentleman have taken 'drifter' to a whole new level. It's truly amazing how little money and possessions we can get by on and still be content and happy. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing
Frugal guy
One of the rare man in this world you is truly FREE
From a clothesline bandit to world traveler. What an interesting life! And he is right about how phones are killing the social skills of everyone who owns one. Young people are just zombies now.
Great guest and interview. Enjoyed this cheers ❤
What an interesting story, Thanks for sharing!
Fantastic 👏
Thank you for this video. Wonderful.
Thanks Chai
Wow. Nice guy. I will do it when i retire. He could because he has a house back in Belgium. So he has some kind of an income. ( Renting his house). But stil good going. More videos of this kind. Thanks
Very nice story, from a interesting Globe Trotter. But it’s Not possible for everyone. 🙏
I travel for cheap but never on foot. I have my own wheels and thats real freedom.
A very happy man – he has and continues to live life everyday , inspiring and shows what can be done ✔️- a very cool interview indeed my friend 👋🎅👌👍😃🙏
I wish I had done this early in my life. This man is an inspiration ❤
Thumbs up 👍 Champ, interesting fellow but not a life for me. Whatever makes you happy though 😎
Ok but what about family life? Do he have children do he want children? When he is older maybe he will regret not having child !
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